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Karmann Ghia TC

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:31 pm
by Fralg
For tiden står det en bil for salg i Danmark som vi må kunne si er spesiell i Europeisk målestokk:
[logged]Karmann Ghia TC eller Touring Coupe som det er forkortelse for

Biltypen ble produsert i Brasil mellom 1970-1975 og antallet stoppet på ca 18000.

Litt info fra nettet:
This model looked much like an Italian impression of a Porsche 911 and was a roomy 2+2 coupe with a modern and comfortable interior. Its appearance was easier on the eyes than that of the Type 34 Karmann-Ghia, though its lines were not undisputed and generally not considered to be Giugiaro's best work. The rear portion of the car seems to be modelled slightly after that of the Volkswagen 411. Underneath it was similar to the Type 14 though actually the platform of the Volkswagen Variant was used rather than that of the Beetle. Main difference was the engine: the Type 145 TC was Sensurert av VWACBd with the 1584 cc flat-four aircooled boxer unit from the Type 3 instead of the 1192 cc unit of the Type 14. Now the car had 65 hp @ 4600 rpm and a top speed of 137 kph, compared to the lowly 34 hp and 115 kph of the Type 14. This was certainly an improvement though its performance was still rather sedate compared to other coupes in its class.

The Karmann-Ghia TC had its looks and more powerful engine but wasn't as successful as anticipated. It actually had one big flaw: it was terribly prone to rust, or as Brazilians put it, it started to rust at the first raindrop. In particular the grill in front and the vents in the rear let in water which was collected at rust sensitive parts of the construction and also the door rubbers didn't seal adequately. Yet in all 18,119 TC models have been produced during its production run from 1970 till 1976. It was only offered in South America and wasn't exported off the continent.
This fact and its rust problem makes the Karmann-Ghia TC a very rare sight in Europe. The car shown here is a prototype which is part of the factory museum collection of Karmann in Osnabruck, Germany. It's an interesting example of autonomous design and engineering by the South American car industry, which is often overlooked here in Europe.

Link til annonsen: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=567790

Dårlige bilder i salgsannonsen så jeg fant dette istedenfor:

2 SP2'er i klubben, hvem er først med en TC? [/logged]

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:57 pm
by Solan
Fralg wrote: .... the Type 145 TC was Sensurert av VWACBd with the 1584 cc flat-four aircooled boxer...
Link til annonsen: http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=567790
...lurer på hvem som har plukket ut de stygge ordene som skal sensureres...er det Kristian som har det bredeste ordforrådet her, kanskje? :P :P

:s

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:11 pm
by Fralg
.... the Type 145 TC was f i t t e d with the 1584 cc flat-four aircooled boxer...

Kristian er knallhard på sensuren  :o

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:02 pm
by VW 181
Nå skal vel ikke jeg være den som uttaler seg mest bastant om utseendet, med tanke på hva jeg kjører selv...
men dette er vel ikke akkurat det lekreste produktet fra VW?
Hadde vel likevel vært artig om der dukket opp en slik en... ;D

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 2:09 pm
by Moshe
VW 181 wrote: Nå skal vel ikke jeg være den som uttaler seg mest bastant om utseendet, med tanke på hva jeg kjører selv...
men dette er vel ikke akkurat det lekreste produktet fra VW?
Hadde vel likevel vært artig om der dukket opp en slik en... ;D
Hehe - god kommentar JH.... men denne er jo faktisk griselekker!!  :o
Kunne godt tenkt meg en sånn jeg.... :)

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:12 pm
by Fralg
Hei VW 181
Dette er kanskjer mer din smak?  ;D

Variant:
Produced in Brazil from 1969 to 1977 with a 1600cc twin carb engine.  The Brazilian made Variant had some noticeable external differences compared to the VW Germany version.  Upgraded in 1977 as the Variant II it continued in production until 1980

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:13 pm
by Fralg
For ikke å snakke om denne strømlinjeformede sportsbilen......

Also know as a VW1600, it was basically a four door Fusca.  Built from 1968 up to 1971, 24,475 were produced.

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 4:53 pm
by Moshe
Utrolig rart å se disse under VW-fanen. Litt VW er der jo, men dette kunne jo lke godt vært en Simca eller en Fiat fra den tiden...  ;)
Men det er jo veldig artig at de fikk lov av VW-konsernet å lage sine egne utgaver i hytt og vær.
Hadde de ikke en luftavkjølt Golfkloning med i sotementet også?

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:43 pm
by orangenotch

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:56 pm
by Solan
...syns den ligna på en Wartburg, jeg...

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:15 pm
by bareare
Fralg wrote: For ikke å snakke om denne strømlinjeformede sportsbilen......

Also know as a VW1600, it was basically a four door Fusca.  Built from 1968 up to 1971, 24,475 were produced.
:o Å så 4 dørs da gitt.... :o

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Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 10:07 pm
by Moshe
orangenotch wrote: Luftkjølt gol, og Amazonas min favoritt.http://www.lunaticfringe.org/vwfox/spec ... -1981.html   
http://amazonas.50megs.com/
Go' knall Pål, dette var artig.
Syns Gol'en ligner mer på en Polo enn en Golf egentlig... og en tanke spartansk dashbord... ;D
... mens Amazonas'en har jeg aldri hørt om før - megatøff!!
Nå må vi åpne for motorsykler i VWACB også, lurer på hvem som blir førstemann... :D

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Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 5:21 pm
by VW 181
Enig i at dette er litt tøft... De første bildene ligner en god del på Moskwitchene fra Østblokken, eller er jeg helt borte nå??
Kos dere alle sammen på årsmøtet, snakkes når jeg kommer hjem fra ferien!  ;D ;D ;D