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Sv: Vekt type 4 vs type 1

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:09 am
by hans
http://fixrambler.com/engineweightchart.txt
   
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                      weight
    engine            pounds   ref.       comments



VW flat-4 air cooled    200
VW flat-4 air cooled    215     (109)
VW flat-4 air cooled    215     (245) with heater boxes; 180 stripped
VW flat-4 Type IV       311     (109)
VW flat-4 Type 4        230     (189) Complete, uprighted, less exhaust system
VW flat-4 Type 1        250     (163) 1600cc dual port, stock flywheel,
                                     clutch, doghouse oil cooler, Monza
                                     muffler, Bosch alternator, twin
                                     Solex/Kadron carbs with manifolds and
                                     linkage, heater boxes, all sheet metal,
                                     without oil

VW 1.5L L4 Diesel       246     (226) w/ oil, int/exh man, no alt. or starter
VW Rabbit 1.6-1.7-1.8   231     (245) Dasher, Scirocco, Jetta, Omni, Horizon

Vauxhall Calibra        245     (75) 24v, 2.5L V6
Vauxhall Swindon        230     (106) race motor, 2.0L
Vauxhall 16 valve       237     (199)

Vertemati                62     (169) SOHC 4 stroke single, 503cc, 56HP

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Transmissions

 maker    weight gears type    source    comment

VW          71   4 speed manual  (147) Beetle IRS transaxle
VW          79   4 speed manual  (147) Bus IRS transaxle

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unattributed data:  from my paper notes of yesteryear
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(12) Popular Science, September 1982
(13) Popular Science, May 1972
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(25) Road & Track, February 1994
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(123) Automotive Engineering, May 1996
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(125) Surplus Center, 1997 catalog
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(128) Automotive Industries, October 1996
(129) Automotive Industries, September 1996
(130) Automotive Engineering, December 1996
(131) Automotive Engineering, January 1996
(132) Automotive Engineering, June 1997
(133) Automotive Industries, October 1996
(134) Fast Car, August 1996 (British)
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(140) Automotive Engineering, December 1982
(141) Machine Design, April 3 1997
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(144) RaceTech Magazine web site January 2000
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(149) Jerico ad, Circle Track August 1996
(150) Jack Chesley  14 March 1996
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(153) "Sparkman, Jeffrey"  13 February 1997
(154) "Dan. Jones" January 1997
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(158) Automotive Industries July 1996
(159) Popular Science, August 1979
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(161) Ed Raden  June 1997
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(165) Joel Koenigs 23 May 1997
(166) Brian Knowles  November 1997
(167) Will Klopfenstein May 1997
(168) Car Craft  March 1998
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(175) http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/clerget.htm
(176) http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/db605.htm
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(178) http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/xr-7755.html
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(181) http://www.aviation-history.com/engines/wr-1937.htm
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(194) Scott McClelland  scottm@hprpcd.rose.hp
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(198) Ian Drysdale  20 Jun 1999
(199) Daniel1312@aol.com  31 Dec 1999 (unknown magazine article)
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(201) Laszlo Szerenyi  4 May 1999
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(217) Jim Schneider mc-chassis-design@list.sirius.com
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(219) Motorcyclist, October 1985
(220) Motorcyclist, April 1978
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(222) Cycle World, June 1969
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(235) Chevy High Performance, July 1998
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(237) Motor, March 19 1983 (British)
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(244) Solar Automotive conversion brochure
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Sv: Vekt type 4 vs type 1

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:27 pm
by Solan
Litt lite henvisninger der, Hans, men ellers var det bra.

Sv: Vekt type 4 vs type 1

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:51 pm
by RZR Andy
Ser ut til å stemme bra, selv om jeg bare har sjekket halvparten av dem, så ja - her er det nok rette sifre :thup

Sv: Vekt type 4 vs type 1

Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:18 pm
by Solan
Hvis du treffer de på BT på en god dag, så kan det hende at det sklir igjennom med bare 263 referanser, Petter.

Sv: Vekt type 4 vs type 1

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:33 pm
by Padden
Se der ja, takker Hans! Nå har jeg noen tall jeg kan bruke i søknaden. Er veldig spent på saksgangen hos BT, men tror nok de er bedre enn sitt rykte.

Det var forresten en spøk at porschesekser i boble var en vanlig ombygging, men ikke en spøk at han trodde det  ;)